NCSD Presentation on 11/09/11


 

Documents used for the Presentation:

Propoganda, Mailed October 2011: "Supplemental Fresh Water Solutions"

Presentation Power Point slide show 11/09/11

Audio of the Presentation:

North side microphone recording

h:mm:ss Notes on Comments made
0:00:00 Lebrun, Question Cards
0:06:15 Harrison, some cards are not from NCSD, Nor are they from any purveyor
0:06:30 Ed Eby, on water "shortage"
0:22:14 Mike Winn
0:41:03 Mike Lebrun, Talks about the "Solution"
0:57:25 20 Min Break
0:57:25 Back from Break
0:58:26 Ed Eby, Any questions we don't answer tonight we will post on the website
0:58:47 Question: what if your property uses a well?
0:59:40 Question: The white paper refers to the court, why is the court involved
1:01:12 Question: How does the cost of the Santa Maria water fit in to this here.
1:02:18 Question: Is that subject to change by Santa Maria?
1:03:00 Question: What about the refinery, avocado grower? No
1:03:44 That overlying landowner with a private well has the senior right to that water the court did not require them to be part of this physical solution.
1:04:06 Water rights in California are not first come first serve
1:04:14 Just because we are using more water then this basin is allowing does not mean that a owner of vacant land out there won't be able to develop
1:04:34 Question: How come, if the population when up 30% the water when up 50%
1:06:20 Ed Eby, The Non-Residential water use has remained fairly constant.
1:06:39 Question Where does the State Water pipe line come from?
1:07:51 Question: Has creating a dam on Nipomo creek been considered?
1:08:43 Question: Conoc Refinery use water from Black Lake why can't we?
1:09:30 Mike Winn, The court ruled (NCSD agreed in the settlement) they (Conco) can pump to there historic limit.
1:09:56 Question: How do we get the county to avoid ramped growth after we resolve the current supply issue
1:10:34 Lebrun There will be no more general plan amendments until supplemental water
1:11:31 Question: How and Why is Rural Water involved with this project?
1:11:52 Lebrun Rural water is not linked
1:13:06 The Court reviewed and approved and put forth
1:13:25 Question: Can you show us any real evidence of seawater intrusion?
1:13:30 Ed Eby, points to Los Osos
1:14:35 Question what does that have to do with Nipomo?
1:14:37 Ed Eby, That is real documented evidence of seawater intrusion.
1:14:46 Question: is there any independent confirmation of the Oceano seawater intrusion claim.
1:14:57 2009 -2010 Northern TG reports
1:16:02 Question: Stop growth stop building make the new people pay
1:17:05 Mike Winn, If you have been here like I have less 23 years we are the problem.
1:17:28 Question: Why are allowing developers to build more if we have a water problem.
1:17:45 Mike Winn, We litigated against the county
1:17:50 and they settled out of court with 3090
1:18:13 Mike Winn, This is catch up not about the future
1:18:21 Question: is it true the district is looking at decreasing water connection fees if this passes?
1:19:15 How come the assessment is based on the properties potential use of water?
1:20:01 Question: What other additional cost are there
1:21:18 Quesiton: how may are in the survey? about 300-400
1:22:02 Card Questions end, Jim Harrison, For public comment
1:22:48 Jim Harrison, limit comments to one Minute each
1:23:13 Bob Blair, The pipe was 6 million what happened?
1:24:34 ? how many people have been here for x amount of years but I bought a house that was so I am not a new person.
1:24:52 ?, I have lived here 42 years I am not part of the problem, I should not have to pay for new houses
1:25:37 ?, Tap off the pipe here?
1:26:31 ? Assuming we go ahead with the project, can we get a low cost loan throught the state or county?
1:27:32 John Snyder
1:29:00 John Snyder, One of the best solutions not talked about
1:29:51 Bill Denneen
1:30:12 Rich Ramero, increase the rates by acres
1:31:02 Rich Ramero
1:31:47 End of meeting

South side microphone recording

NCSD contrated APG video recording (not put on http://www.slo-span.org/media.php?slo=3 website yet )

Comments made:

11/09/11 yellow cards handed in. (public record request made, response not recieved)

 

11/09/11, Mesa Community Alliance commnets:

Mesa Community Alliance's analysis of the MESA water supply issues
Questions you should ask about NCSD's pipeline and MESA water supply

11/09/11, John Snyder's comments:

NCSD is forced to present a onesided analysis:
The alleged problems and solution do not add up:
NCSD documents show the WIP is not the lowest cost solution, for example:
NCSD falsely claims: Our Community has only one source of water:

Lower cost solution #1 to 4:

NCSD agreement to support the WIP Page 22 Section VI. A. 3. :

“The Stipulating Parties (NCSD) agree to support (and, conversely, not to oppose in any way or to encourage or assist any other Person or party in opposing or challenging) the implementation of the MOU, which includes environmental and regulatory permits and approvals, the approval of a wholesale water supply agreement between Santa Maria and NCSD, and the alignment and construction of a pipeline and related infrastructure necessary to deliver the Nipomo Supplemental Water from Santa Maria to the NMMA”

NCSD agenda with lower cost solutions:

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NCSD lower cost alternatives to the WIP/Supplemental Water

News Articles:

11/18/11 Adobe Press, Opponents question NCSD’s data

11/18/11 Adobe Press, Third source for fresh water

11/18/11 Adobe Press, Forum outlines Nipomo pipeline project

11/18/11 Adobe Press, Water line gets support

11/17/11 Times Press Recorder, Forum outlines pipeline project for Nipomo

11/15/11 Santa Maria Times, Controlling population

11/07/11 Santa Maria Times, NCSD may be authorized to form assessment district

11/07/11 The Adobe Press, NCSD may be authorized to form assessment district

10/23/11 The Adobe Press, Nipomo CSD water rates set to rise Nov. 1

10/22/11 Santa Maria Times, Water rates to rise in Nipomo

10/13/11 Tribune, Rate Increase Approved

10/13/11 Tribune, Cost of water in Nipomo going up

10/10/11 Tribune, Nipomo revs up pipeline efforts

10/03/11 Tribune, Be wary of deniers

10/03/11 Tribune, Declare moratorium

09/30/11 Santa Maria Times, Water supply in question

09/26/11 Santa Maria Times, Report Says Groundwater Supply "potentially severe"

09/24/11 The Adobe Press, Report Says Groundwater Supply "potentially severe"

09/24/11 The Adobe Press, Protest Rate Increase

09/24/11 The Adobe Press, Experts discuss Mesa water supply by Ed Eby

09/08/11 The Adobe Press, Experts discuss Mesa water supply by Ed Eby

09/05/11 The Adobe Press, Check facts with NCSD

09/01/11 The Adobe Press, Mesa group has facts about pipeline

08/19/11 The Adobe Press, NCSD Water purveyors set info meeting

08/19/11 The Times Press Recorder, NCSD Water purveyors set info meeting

08/19/11 The Adobe Press, NCSD add Straight talk Straight answers

07/30/11 Santa Maria Times, NCSD water plan expensive, unnecessary