NCSD Presentation 1/28/12
Examples of documents mailed 1/12/12
Example of glossy brochure sent with letters
Example of NCSD letter sent to property owners in NCSD (to be posted)
Example of NCSD letter sent to property owners in GSWC
Example of NCSD letter sent to property owners in RWC
Example of NCSD letter sent to property owners in WMWC
News of meeting
01/21/11 Adobe, Pipeline charge letters sent to property owners
01/20/11 Adobe, Pipeline charge letters sent to property owners woodlands loan version
Meeting Maps on Posters
2/1/12 NCSD Benefit Unit Assessment Map, January 2012
2/1/12 Golden State Water Company Benefit Unit Assessment Map, January 2012
2/1/12 Rural Water Company Benefit Unit Assessment Map, January 2012
2/1/12 Woodlands Mutural Water Company Benefit Unit Assessment Map, January 2012
Meeting Handouts
1/28/12 Board handout for Woodlands Mutual Water Company Landowners Assessment Estimate
1/28/12 Board handout for Golden State Water Company Landowners Assessment Estimate
1/28/12 Board handout for NCSD Landowners Assessment Estimate
Max 1 BU, if paid up front | $1,090 |
1 BU cost | $1,340 |
Maximum Bond Costs in $ | $250 |
Maximum Bond cost in % | 22.9% |
Financed amount | $1,340 |
Number of year Terms | 30 |
Maximum 1 Bu, payment per year | $120 |
Maximum Total Interest & Principle payments | $3,600 |
Maximum Interest rate per year | 8.2% |
So NOW is NCSD is really looking at Maximum Interest rate of 8.2% ???????????
Presentation comments by Mesa Community Alliance
Comments provided by Mesa Community Alliance
Presentation comments by John Snyder on 1/28/12
1/28/12 Comments by John Snyder
Rebuttal presentation slides by John Snyder on 1/25/12
Note the content of the slides is being transferred to the Half Truths page with links to all the data. Please check there for the most up-to-date information.
Slides of the Presentation:
At the meeting I asked the NCSD to post the slides on there website, they declined. I made a public record request that is due about 2/9/11
Meeting slides
1/28/12 NCSD Presentation Slides
Audio of the Presentation:
South side microphone recording 130mb
h:mm:ss | Notes on Comments made |
0:24:00 | Start |
0:24:00 | Ed Eby |
0:24:59 | Ed Eby, Our focus is NCSD and GSWC |
0:35:59 | Mike Winn |
0:40:17 | Mike Winn,I want you to understand carefully, and I want to say it carefully, Every single expert study that has been made in the last 15-20 years, says we have a serious water problem here |
0:40:34 | Winn, Every single state study that was done by the department of water resources has says Nipomo has a serious problem |
0:40:44 | Winn, Every single county study that has been done here says exactly the same thing, we have a water shortage we have pumping problems |
0:40:54 | Winn, Papadaplus study |
0:41:11 | Board and RMS level 3 |
0:41:30 | Winn, NMMA TG |
0:41:50 | Mike Winn, Second and Third report said this project must be done as soon as possible |
0:41:54 | Winn, and there is not a single opinion on that group to the contrary, (Mike fails to mention they pre-agreed to say that and can not have a contrary opinion) |
0:41:59 | Winn, other Cities (that don't have to pay) |
0:42:24 | Winn, Why bring this in |
0:42:54 | Winn they (Santa Maria) has lots of water over there every year, that simply continues west goes to the ocean with out benifit anyone |
0:43:20 | Winn, there's state water, There's some Twitchell water and groundwater |
0:43:32 | :Winn, We can reduce our pumping here (NCSD also could just issue more will servers and pump the same) |
0:43:45 | Winn, and reduce the risk of sea water intrusion, (does not say eliminate the risk) |
0:44:08 | Lebrun on the project it self |
0:47:39 | Kari Wagner, Assessment Engineer |
1:06:18 | Ed Eby Break for Kari |
1:07:33 | Question, Black Lake Golf course, Community land who pays |
1:11:23 | Question, Example of use of chart? |
1:14:46 | Question, Up front payment and discount? |
1:17:28 | Kari, if you prepay NCSD will return a rebate at end if cost are less of the project |
1:17:42 | Question, What happens if the cost go up |
1:17:50 | Question, If the cost go up the amount on the ballot is the ceiling. |
1:18:06 | NCSD avoids saying it will have to raise rates to cover shortage. |
1:18:14 | Lebrun, on cost contingences |
1:20:04 | Question, How safe is the water |
1:20:16 | Lebrun, SM 95% last year |
1:21:38 | Lebrun keep questions to Assessment |
1:22:04 | Lebrun, No connection to SWP Pipe |
1:22:23 | Question, called and got no answer, appointments? |
1:23:03 | Bob Blair, Summit station paid for water |
1:23:43 | Lebrun, only questions on assessment |
1:24:26 | Question, Unfair for those who save water with landscaping |
1:25:27 | Lebrun, That water bill you pay each year will reflect the Santa Maria Water cost |
1:25:31 | Lebrun, We do expect our water rates to go up by as much as 20% |
1:25:45 | Lebrun, Low use will have a tier 1 rate |
1:26:07 | Lebrun, Assessment is by typical use of parcel type |
1:26:16 | Question, Un-equitable? |
1:26:44 | Your going to be sued, it should only be based on water use |
1:27:02 | Lebrun, putting cost on water rates was over burdening |
1:27:19 | Lebrun, NCSD split it assessment for pipe, rates for water |
1:27:24 | Lebrun, cost of water will come through on you rates |
1:27:59 | Question, is the assessment amount an absolute max? |
1:28:08 | Question, What happens if the cost go higher |
1:28:56 | Kari, avoids question if cost go higher |
1:29:11 | Lebrun, NCSD board will have a policy decision to make. |
1:30:09 | Bill Graves, if GSWC, RWC don't does NCSD have to bring in water? |
1:30:47 | Leburn, Try’s to claim it the 72% comes "out of the court" |
1:30:59 | Lebrun, all parties overlying the groundwater basin have been involved |
1:31:02 | Lebrun, In 2005 an agreement was filled with the court and all four water companies agreed to the break down spread if this |
1:31:13 | Lebrun, The court logged the final judgment that so order the stipulation, so each of the companies are required to |
1:31:55 | Question, Property size and property with a bluff that will never be used |
1:32:48 | Bill Denean. |
1:33:38 | Comment, You did not answer my Question |
1:33:40 | Question, If SM does not have water We will not have water in the future, we need desal |
1:33:59 | kari, Questions only on assessments |
1:34:13 | Question, Summit Station all ballots defaulted to yes and only counted no votes, is this the same? |
1:34:40 | No, this is 50%+ wins |
1:35:31 | Question, What about people with water wells? |
1:35:54 | Kari you will not be able to get water later (potentialy, it depends on the board) |
1:36:04 | Question, Did those people receive a letter |
1:36:07 | Lebrun, if in the district and have water and a well you will |
1:36:18 | Lebrun, If you are out there on your well |
1:36:36 | Lebrun, you will receive a ballot with 0.0 BU's |
1:36:46 | If you want to hook up later you will pay what it takes to buy into that infurstructor |
1:37:05 | Question, Maintenance cost? |
1:37:31 | ebrun, We built in Replacement and O and M cost and that will come in with the water rate |
1:37:43 | Question, Water rates are already going up without this project? |
1:38:10 | Lebrun, Rates are driven by energy, O&M and overhead |
1:38:45 | Lebrun, Your water purchase in the future will define as much of your participation here as does the infrastruction buy in cost |
1:39:07 | Question, Plan for new growth? |
1:39:32 | Kari, good question, NCSD and GSWC they do not have any control over development, that's the county. |
1:39:46 | Kari, this will bring in water for existing customers and infill of NCSD |
1:39:56 | Kari, NCSD will not provide water to anyone that does not subscribe to this project |
1:40:17 | Lebrun Out side will not be able to hook into this project |
1:40:29 | Question, Term? 30 years, fixed assessment? Yes, taxable? ? |
1:41:18 | Lebrun the estimate we have given is a ceiling |
1:42:29 | Question, Does a high density pay more and have more vote? Yes |
1:43:10 | Question, Parcel example? |
1:43:36 | Question, Blacklake 26 meters BLA, HOA ? |
1:45:23 | Question, Handout that states the hookup will drop? wrong but they will drop off for supplemental water |
1:46:11 | Questions, Lots conserve GSWC being challenged by Barstow. |
1:47:27 | Lebrun, this is a property tax with no margin |
1:47:40 | Question, What happens if this vote fails |
1:47:46 | Lebrun, if the voters say one source is fine for us |
1:48:00 | Lebrun, District board would make decision to put on rates |
1:48:44 | Question, Is the list on the website for GSWC updated? No that is this process. |
1:49:29 | Question, Procedure to reduce units |
1:51:03 | Question, Will we have a list so we can make sure our neighbors who are the same are paying the same? |
1:51:20 | Lebrun, Yes on Feb. 29 after Feb. 16 and any changes will be too hard to make |
1:51:57 | Quesiton, 1/2 Bluff? |
1:53:04 | Question, Requested a reduction? |
1:54:48 | Question, Deed Restrictions? |
1:57:01 | End of meeting |