NCSD Presentation 1/23/12

Examples of documents mailed 1/12/12

Example of glossy brochure sent with letters

Example of NCSD letter sent to property owners in NCSD (to be posted)

Example of NCSD letter sent to property owners in GSWC

Example of NCSD letter sent to property owners in RWC

Example of NCSD letter sent to property owners in WMWC

 

NCSD Flyer sent on meetings

News of meeting

01/21/11 Adobe, Pipeline charge letters sent to property owners

01/20/11 Adobe, Pipeline charge letters sent to property owners woodlands loan version

Meeting Maps on Posters

2/1/12 NCSD Benefit Unit Assessment Map, January 2012

2/1/12 Golden State Water Company Benefit Unit Assessment Map, January 2012

2/1/12 Rural Water Company Benefit Unit Assessment Map, January 2012

2/1/12 Woodlands Mutural Water Company Benefit Unit Assessment Map, January 2012

Meeting Handouts

1/23/12 Board handout for Rural Water Landowners Assessment Estimate with error not corrected

Max 1 BU, if paid up front $1,090
1 BU cost $1,340
Maximum Bond Costs in $ $250
Maximum Bond cost in % 22.9%
Financed amount $1,340
Number of year Terms 30
Maximum 1 Bu, payment per year $240
Maximum Total Interest & Principle payments $7,200
Maximum Interest rate per year 17.8%

So NCSD is looking at a Maximum Interest rate of 17.8%??????????? (It is an error see below)

 

1/23/12 Board handout for Rural Water Landowners Assessment Estimate Corrected by Mr. Lebrun and received 1/28/12 at the NCSD meeting

Updated interest chart for corrected handout ($240 yearly changed to $120)

Max 1 BU, if paid up front $1,090
1 BU cost $1,340
Maximum Bond Costs in $ $250
Maximum Bond cost in % 22.9%
Financed amount $1,340
Number of year Terms 30
Maximum 1 Bu, payment per year $120
Maximum Total Interest & Principle payments $3,600
Maximum Interest rate per year 8.2%

So NCSD is really looking at Maximum Interest rate of 8.2% ?
Yes: 2/9/11 Mike Lebrun General Manager for NCSD :"As I explained, we double counted the debt service on RWC portion of Bond resulting in a number that was twice as high as our conservatively high estimate should be."

 

 

Presentation comments by Mesa Community Alliance

Comments provided by Mesa Community Alliance

Comments provided by John Snyder

A correction on comments for numbers on page 2 should be

With a NMMA TG requirement at 3000 afy rates would jump to:

Per year the average cost per connection will be$579
Bi Monthly that would be$97
Monthly that would be$48

Slides of the Presentation:

At the meeting I asked the NCSD to post the slides on there website, they declined. I made a public record request that is due about 2/9/11

Meeting slides

1/23/12 NCSD Presentation Slides

Audio of the Presentation:

West side microphone recording 200mb

West side microphone recording 20mb

h:mm:ss Notes on Comments made
0:00:18 6:30 pm vs 7:00 pm Questions
0:02:25 Claim State Water Pipe not available
0:03:23 and a connection to that pipeline, while not an engineering problem, is not possible
0:05:08 Where is Rural, Mr. Chuck Baker?
0:06:41 Question: I am on Well water
0:08:41 Lets wait for the rest of the people
0:08:53 6:30 pm vs 7:00 pm start, Ed Eby
0:09:47 Salmon flyer is the only one from NCSD
0:10:27 NCSD is the lead agency
0:10:56 Review of Supplemental water project
0:15:01 Start of Presentation slides on supplemental Water
0:15:15 Santa Maria Groundwater basin.
0:18:09 All of our experts tell us we are using much more water then is being replaced in our aquifer, water table dropping
0:18:15 Most of our water comes from rain fall or a little bit of it leaks from the Santa Maria valley
0:19:55 Nipomo Mesa map Depressions right next to Rural water companies wells.
0:21:11 Depressions
0:22:47 Ed Eby, Three Examples of communities next to the ocean.
0:24:48 things we would face, could face if we had sea water intrusion
0:25:59 Mike Winn on the project
0:26:16 Other solutions
0:27:29 Will water pumped from SM really supplement our "portion"
0:27:40 There is lots of water that goes into the ocean with out any benefit to anybody on the other side of Santa Maria out in that area.
0:29:56 The top six projects
0:32:27 We asked that Question why does the county allow people to still build houses? they say you know your a community services district or Rural company just keep selling those folks water. And we will take care of that for you, and they do allow building.
0:32:49 Technical group formed by the court (no by agreement of some parties)
0:35:02 Mike Lebrun, on pipe system
0:35:52 overview of SM groundwater basin
0:36:14 This Breaks down the cost
0:37:29 A Break down of our costs
0:38:26 Here is where we are in the schedule
0:39:10 Lebrun, the end of my piece
0:39:28 Kari Wagner, Assessment engineer
0:42:17 There will be two options to pay, one to prepay your assessment in full or a portion there of, if so you get a discount of the underwriting costs
0:43:14 The second options is to pay over 30 years on your tax roll
0:43:35 Four water purveyors, Rural water is entitled to 7% of the project (3000 Af/Y)
0:44:07 7% equates to 2.1 million dollars
0:44:27 What is a benefit unit and what does that mean to me
0:44:34 I have been working with the district on determine what is equitable for every property owner, We determined
0:46:16 You received a letter
0:47:45 Most of you will not be able to change or alter the BU's
0:48:14 Go over salmon sheet of paper
0:53:59 One BU is estimated at $240 per year
0:55:08 We can not go any dollar above $1348
0:55:49 Question and Answer period, "prefer" questions only about financial situation.
0:56:49 Question and Answer period
0:58:15 The 1.7 mile pipe that Chuck Baker talked about is not included
1:00:05 Question: Why is the pipeline from NCSD to Rural included
1:01:32 Question: Is it fair for Rural Water Customers to pay for the all the other benefits? Only paying 7%
1:02:00 Question: We don't have any direct benefit from the pipe line
1:04:24 Question: is Bay view paying for the park as well as the parcels?
1:05:42 Question: is the cost per benefit unit the same in every purveyor zone? No
1:06:11 Nipomo is more roughly $1776 per developed BU
1:06:43 For Rural $1348 Estimated at this point per BU, one time charge is $1090
1:07:29 Question: Will you disclose the vote count when done? Yes
1:08:33 If you by a house over 30 years the cost with interest is 2-3 times this is the same
1:08:45 Point: But Not 6 times?
1:08:53 The Estimate on the Annual interest rate is an estimate. what is it?
1:09:21 I don't recall but want to say, the interest rate is 8.5%, but we don't know what the bond market will do.
1:09:29 This is a high conservative estimate
1:09:37 If we get a 6% interest rate the cost will go down
1:09:58 We are planning to sell bonds 6 months from now, estimates are high so it will be lower you get it
1:10:25 Question: Who counts the votes? a firm in Carlsbad Ca
1:11:10 Question: You said by vote, but it's $ value assessed
1:13:18 Question: if you have one house? it depends on your property size.
1:13:56 Question: if you are on a parcel over 5 acres?
1:14:25 The necessary steps to reduce you assessment to one home,
1:14:56 Question: How tight is the estimated number
1:14:58 I can give you a range for Rural, the absolute lowest $1150 dollar for maximum full build out, highest $1348
1:15:50 Based on the parliamentary engineering and contingencies those are the maximum values
1:16:02 Lebrun, The $1348 is a ceiling
1:16:14 When you receive a ballet in march it will have a number on it
1:16:20 It will be in the $1300 to $1350 dollar range.
1:16:34 and by law we can not assess anymore then that number
1:17:11 Question: Why is it based on acreage at all?
1:17:31 Did a study
1:18:03 The water use range for a 1 acre parcel from 20 gallons to 1700 gallons a day
1:18:30 It's based on typical water use for property size
1:18:38 When you get your water bill that is where it gets more equitable.
1:19:35 Opposition? Yes
1:19:57 The district has spent 20 years on this project
1:20:13 If people say no then that is what we will listen to
1:20:47 Vote on $ or BU Why?
1:22:06 Question: How is a group 1b the same as a 3b?
1:23:38 Question: Who does the vote for a school?
1:24:00 Question: Everyone has known, including NCSD, about this for 3 decades, but they build anyway, Once you get additional water, why would you expect continue to building, and you will have this same meeting in 10 years?
1:24:16 Funding questions only
1:24:56 Question: If you reduce your BU from 2.3 to 2.0 so you do not have a granny unit , you will have to have a dead restriction on your property,
1:25:27 and that does not provide the water rights to build that in the future
1:25:32 Question: What is the assessment in each of the other areas?
1:26:16 Lebrun avoids question, Rural is less then NCSD, Woodlands and more then GSWC, No $ numbers
1:27:51 Question: Rural is a minority, We could all vote no and we would still be in? Right
1:30:41 Question: Do we pay for water if we don't have a pipe? Yes
1:31:50 You have 7% of the vote
1:32:01 Question: Will you receive one ballot even if you have multiple owners? Yes, can request second ballot
1:34:30 Most are 1a or 2a if you have two units, means potential for two units, Errors in letters.
1:35:46 Ed Eby: Where did you get that information?
1:37:19 Question: What happens if your parcel has open space?
1:38:46 if you are on one acre you are not allowed to have a granny unit if you are on a septic system, unless you have "favorable conditions"
1:40:39 Question: Common areas?
1:41:13 Question: if it passes what will the increase in water rates be?
1:41:51 That number has not been figure out.
1:42:02 Question: will it be different for other areas? Yes depends on area water provider
1:42:32 Question: How many people did not receive letters, that should of? Use assessors data base.
1:42:57 or make sure you are in the assessment district
1:43:25 Question: How long is the voting process? 45 day period, will receive mid march. due back mid may
1:44:05 Question: it does not add up? the $2.1 million is not 7% of $25.9 million, it includes finance charges.
1:44:42 The financing charges are 18%(I think that's Wrong) that would come back out if you prepaid
1:44:58 Question: 8.33 vs 7%? 7% is 8.33% of 2500 AF = 7% of 3000 AF
1:46:24 Question: is there a connection to Rural? NO.
1:46:42 Question: if approved and no Rural connection?
1:46:52 In What is considered by the court a In lieu benefit and by bring in supplemental water to this "Basin" and helping recover the basin health, the wells that rural pumps in this immediate are will benefit.
1:47:14 What if no connection is built but there is a "water emergency" 15 years from now can we build and get the water? Yes.
1:47:53 Rural will pay for water weather they get water or not? Yes
1:48:11 Rural is reusable for that part of the project 208 Af the court is saying
1:48:25 :It becomes the health of the groundwater basin and all users
1:48:35 The court requires us to bring in a minimum of 2500 AF once we are able to deliver that water from that date going forward.
1:49:03 Ed Eby end of meeting, Kari will answer individual questions

Rebuttal presentation by John Snyder on 1/25/12

Draft Presentation slides

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