NCSD Talk Radio 11/7/11
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Dave Congalton Podcasts
On Air Details
Weekdays, 3-7 p.m.
Biography
Dave Congalton has been the #1 talk show host on the Central Coast since his popular radio show debuted in January 1992. The former college instructor offers up "Hometown Radio" weekday afternoons from 3 to 7, mixing discussion of national and local topics and encouraging all points of view.
Congalton is an award-winning author and freelance writer. He is the co-author of a new book "The Talk Radio Guest Book: How to be the Perfect Radio Guest".
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11/07/2011 Don Morris and retired Col. Jack Jones talk about General Hoyt Vandenberg. Michael LeBrun and Ed Eby update us on water for the Nipomo Mesa. Kevin Rice responds to the recent Op Ed piece by Sup. Adam Hill regarding air quality on the Dunes. A preview of the upcoming Paderewski Music Festival in Paso Robles.
NCSD Audio and Time line:
11/7/11 Dave Congalton Podcast audio trimed to just the NCSD segment 20mb
| h:mm:ss | Notes on Comments made |
| 0:00:00 | Nipomo |
| 0:01:17 | Ed Eby, They are learning water is important to us. |
| 0:02:28 | Ed Eby, Presentation will be by Lebrun, Mike Winn and Ed Eby |
| 0:03:20 | Dave Congalton, What's the time line? |
| 0:03:37 | Lebrun we will be asking the "Customers" to participate in this project and by that we mean pay for it. |
| 0:03:48 | Lebrun, That vote will be in late winter/early spring 2012 |
| 0:03:55 | Lebrun, If successful, will take the project out to bid in June/July time frame |
| 0:04:21 | Dave Congalton, How does the election work, property owners? |
| 0:04:28 | Lebrun, simple majority of property owners |
| 0:04:33 | Lebrun, a 45 day mail in ballot |
| 0:04:46 | Dave Congalton, What kind of challenge is this? |
| 0:04:57 | Dave Congalton, What is the urgency of this? |
| 0:05:05 | Ed Eby, the problem is the population has grown 20%, we are pumping twice the supply from rain fall |
| 0:06:04 | Dave Congalton, Seawater intrusion, have we seen that yet, |
| 0:06:08 | Ed Eby, we have not yet seen it on the Nipomo Mesa |
| 0:06:31 | Oceano had seawater intrusion at least .5 miles inland |
| 0:06:56 | Ed Eby, We have nothing to rely on |
| 0:07:10 | Lebrun, More sources = More reliability |
| 0:07:48 | Dave Congalton, as a home owner what do we get in return? |
| 0:07:55 | Dave Congalton, or is this just another way to guarantee more growth |
| 0:08:30 | Lebrun, History shows that voting down State Water did not control growth |
| 0:08:59 | No general plan amendments until supplemental water can be dedicated. |
| 0:09:29 | Lebrun, 4 water companies evolved. |
| 0:09:58 | Add time |
| 0:10:27 | End of add |
| 0:11:07 | Dave Congalton, We talked about the problem, give us a sense of the solution. |
| 0:11:25 | Ed Eby, Chart called the top 6 solutions |
| 0:11:30 | The first of those is the state water pipeline why don't we grab on to that |
| 0:11:38 | State Water, Train left Nipomo in 1991 when the people in Nipomo voted against that |
| 0:11:47 | we could get back on it now it would cost us 64 million dollars to buy other peoples water |
| 0:11:58 | We looked a building a pipeline to the City of Santa Maria |
| 0:12:10 | it is "probably" a 25 million construction project |
| 0:12:13 | and it's a reliable source of water |
| 0:12:16 | We looked at desal |
| 0:12:19 | Desal is absolutely the best solution |
| 0:12:21 | The trouble is it is probability 15 to 20 years away |
| 0:12:27 | you have to get 15 different permits |
| 0:12:32 | Coastal commission, have to go through their jurisdiction |
| 0:12:37 | then you talk about 100 to 400 million dollars |
| 0:12:43 | 400 million is the cost of the Monterey desal plant |
| 0:12:48 | Monterey and Santa cruse are 5 years in to theirs |
| 0:13:09 | Building Moratorium |
| 0:13:16 | The people here are using twice as much as is getting replace. |
| 0:13:31 | Dave Congalton, How much time do we have before this water Armageddon arrives? |
| 0:13:35 | Ed Eby, We can't predict that |
| 0:13:37 | Dave Congalton, 2 years, 5 years 10 years |
| 0:13:39 | Ed Eby, I would say it's less then 10, it depends, if we had three bad years of drought it would bring it a lot quicker. |
| 0:13:50 | Dave Congalton, Given all the alternatives what was chosen? |
| 0:13:59 | Lebrun, again when will the Armageddon arrive, it has a lot to do with weather |
| 0:14:16 | Our studies have pointed to the water pipeline sense 2004 |
| 0:14:35 | Pipe line would receive the same blend of water as customers of Santa Maria's system |
| 0:14:57 | Dave Congalton, So would Santa Maria be selling us their water? |
| 0:15:19 | Dave Congalton, and you are saying this can be done in 2 years |
| 0:15:21 | Lebrun, Yes |
| 0:15:43 | Dave Congalton, how much is this going to cost us. |
| 0:15:45 | Lebrun, the project cost is estimated at 25.3 million for the construction capital cost |
| 0:15:53 | a individual customer on a monthly basis will be $20-$30 (x12 = $240-$360 per year) |
| 0:16:15 | Ed Eby, we got a grant for 2.3 million that reduces that 10% |
| 0:16:25 | costs for a .35 acre parcel will average 20-30 dollars per month if you are in NCSD |
| 0:16:56 | Dave Congalton, So what happens if you lose the vote? |
| 0:16:59 | Ed Eby, We don't want to jinx anything. |
| 0:17:01 | Dave Congalton, But what happens Michael? |
| 0:17:03 | Lebrun, it’s often asked. If we lose the vote then my board of directors will have to step back and make a policy decision |
| 0:17:13 | Lebrun, if we want to come forward try to raise our rates and fund the entire project on rates and if we try to do that it will result in another vote |
| 0:17:32 | Lebrun, the district will go back to the court and say we have one source of water, we have given our best effort to supplement it. |
| 0:17:43 | Dave Congalton, why bother with the vote? just raise the rates? |
| 0:17:49 | Both rising the rates and a property tax require a vote of the public. (note not the same vote) |
| 0:18:09 | Lebrun, if we are ultimately unsuccessful in securing the vote we need to get the financing in place and build this project. |
| 0:18:21 | and then the district will wait for water Armageddon, with one source of water |
| 0:18:30 | This is like Los Osos |
| 0:18:37 | We need to deal with this when this is a problem not when it is a crisis |
| 0:18:49 | Ed Eby, Los Osos are $300 per month on their sewer |
| 0:19:10 | the community did have a opportunity back in the 1990's to participate in state water directly |
| 0:19:25 | Dave Congalton, Is that why Nipomo rejected state water because of the cost? |
| 0:19:42 | Traffic |
| 0:21:48 | End of traffic |
| 0:21:51 | Dave Congalton, How comfortable are you with this $25 million cost number? |
| 0:22:18 | Lebrun, On the south side of $26 million dollars |
| 0:22:39 | Pat Eby, (Not related) Question on undeveloped benefit units |
| 0:24:14 | Dave Congalton, does this include Arroyo Grande section of the Mesa do you pay? yes |
| 0:25:05 | Liam, 26 million or 300 million |
| 0:26:47 | Dave Congalton, has there been a joint meeting? |
| 0:27:51 | Dave Congalton, So your (NCSD) cost is the project (pipe) not the water? Yes |
| 0:28:15 | Ed Eby, the water would cost 150 million with out the project. |
| 0:28:22 | John in Arroyo Grande, Tech memo 1975 to 2011 water in storage 5k higher |
| 0:30:16 | Lebrun, can't pull out more then 6000 AF per year on the long term, we are pulling out 12,000 now |
| 0:31:19 | Lebrun the basin is falling quicker, with new development |
| 0:31:36 | Bill, NCSD has declined in a public forum. |
| 0:32:43 | Mike Lebrun, opponents have not basis, that's why. |
| 0:33:43 | Dave Congalton offers to do a forum at trilogy |
| 0:34:03 | Arliean, are there other costs to the 25 million |
| 0:35:12 | Lebrun, there are other costs, current $100 per bill, would be a 5% increase |
| 0:37:03 | Arliean, Im in Rural Water and it's not connected |
| 0:37:53 | Lebrun, all water use benefit connected or not |
| 0:38:26 | Arliean, only have such a small vote. |
| 0:38:45 | Dave Congalton, How can she get representation? |
| 0:38:56 | Lebrun, No board member only representation through PUC |
| 0:39:05 | Ed Eby, No hidden costs |
| 0:39:22 | Ted, State water going down Thompson use it? |
| 0:39:50 | Ed Eby, all that water in the pipe is spoken for. |
| 0:41:26 | End of Nipomo |